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Jerusalem only, or the whole world? Unrepentant Jews only, or perhaps the Gentile powers that destroyed them, and continued to sin against God themselves? The Old Covenant only, or the whole age of sin, death and decay?
But this is not the visible coming to abolish all sinful human rule that we find promised so emphatically. My Background.
I am a born again evangelical layman who has been serving the Lord for about 12 years. William Jones , and a charismatic godmother storefront in the South Bronx , I was basically raised in an agnostic home, and in my teens became antagonistic towards Christianity and its claims to truth and also the politics of some.
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It was in , at the age of 20, that I began really paying attention to the Plain Truth and Good News magazines, published by Herbert W. Armstrong, who at this time, had started excerpting his new booklet Who or What is the Prophetic Beast in the magazines. I was so fascinated by the prophecies of Revelation. How things that would take shape in the future were predicted, in symbolic form in Revelation as well as Daniel. I was also impressed by some other doctrines I saw, but then there were others which troubled me, so I kept at arms length from the group.
I eventually met a street evangelist named Leo, who used to preach in Times Square during lunch, and over time, he showed me the errors of this group from the Bible, and I began moving towards orthodox evangelicalism. I now live in New York with my wife, Wanda and we fellowship at a local independent church.
My experiences on the outside of the faith, looking in, made me see that there are many problems in the Church that we need to address, which are hurting our witness to the world.
The Gospel needs to be clarified. This is the goal of my ministry. Around the time I became interested in the Bible, I also began writing about my concerns. I have decided to share some of them on my page. The index is available in the first link below.
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Subjects include a treatise on the Trinity for believer and unbeliever alike; a commentary on Revelation, a discussion of predestination, the psychology debate, a short summary of arguments in the Contemporary Christian Music controversy between modern evengelicals and old line Fundamentalists. Generally, they have tried to get around it by suggesting that those statements of immanence jump ahead to the future generation when it will actually occur.
While some would live to that time, many would not.
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Time is relative, and the sense that is being given is that to any person alive at any time, it can come at any time. If it is still future to us, it will come suddenly, and we must be ready.
That is the point. All of this could also be explained, especially by the historicists, as the events beginning to unfurl shortly in the apostolic age, but still taking centuries to play out.
Still, I have to admit that these are still stretching it, at least for some of the time statements. So the preterists really seemed to have an upper hand. I first came across the teaching on an internet bulletin board discussion. This was seen as the actual ending of the Old Covenant. I posed several questions, and from there, they laid their scheme of things out.
Since then, everyone who gets born again, experiences this spiritual resurrection. Likewise, the lost who had died, were raised out of Hades and stood before the Great White Throne at that same time. They then were cast into Gehenna. The judgment was past.
Satan was also at that point judged and cast into Gehenna. But what about this Heaven, for the faithful? It becomes completely misty.
There are practically no scriptures on future events left to describe it. One preterist tells me,. Scripture seems to indicate the world continues on and His Kingdom continues to increase. I doubt it can be described with our limited ability to understand. So now, we no longer have any prophetic events to look forward to though one somewhere stated that God can always start a new prophetic plan.
All we have to look forward to is dying and going to Heaven. In the meantime, our mission is just to continue to go forth into the earth and try to bring in as many others as we can.
The Millennium is not always clearly explained, but from what I have gathered, it is generally seen to have been the 40 year period between the Ascension of Christ and the Parousia.
I found this doubtful, as John was the bridge to the second century apostolic fathers such as Polycarp, his disciple, and Ignatius.
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Some try to claim that Barnabas and Clement were also before AD70, but this still leaves many others. To address that, there is also a claim that John may have lived well after writing Revelation.
But there is a problem this raises for the preteristic theory I shall mention later. While this is an impressive system, which seems to do better justice to certain scriptures than any other system, there are still some major problems with it.
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And in trying to make the AD70 destruction of Jerusalem the defining event, it goes too far in spiritualizing many things. Shall God really personally judge all, Jew and Gentile?
Shall Christ really put down all human rule and rule Himself, with us ruling with Him? Unrepentant Jews only or even the Gentile powers that destroyed them and continue to sin against God themselves?
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The preterists takes this as spiritually the freedom from the condemnation of the Law. As one explained it. There is a big difference in this than from sin, evil, and death. For sin has only ended in that their is atonement now for it through Christ.
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This was definitely symbolism of the new covenant church Heb. There was no more need to mourn or cry. Sin had now been paid for by the shed blood of Christ. He had risen from the dead and proceeded to present Himself before the Father in the Holy of Holies. This was in accordance typified by the Jewish priestly system. All of these are what gave futurists the impression that The Olivet discourse and Revelation are describing global cataclysms that obviously have never happened.
Upon researching their usage, I found that this was allowable!
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We have taken too many things literally without taking into account the symbolic meanings of them in prophecy. However, some things are still a stretch. Most people in the world do not even realize that they are so separated, or fiercely reject it.
So that seems like it is more universal, in both sense and scope. Not with the destruction of the Temple in 70AD. The Temple still existed until then, but it was no longer recognized by God as His legitimate institution. It had passed already. The dispensations changed in 33AD, not 70AD. Even this does not say anything about the destruction of the Temple being the great moment. That is one of those that can be explained as being possible for those back then, but in practice jumping ahead to the future.
No, Christians continued to wait for the literal return of Christ, preceded by a literal antichrist, Armageddon, etc. Instead, we see the opposite. He continued to look for a physical resurrection Clement Eusebius, EH Whoever these men were, they came right out of the first generation and in the land of Israel — with absolutely no inkling of an A.
See also the Didache ; ff first century ; Ignatius; Trallians ; Smyrnaens ; ; Letter to Polycarp early second century ; Polycarp ; ; Pseudo-Barnabas also recognized a future literal millennium. Some, including this site, make the allowance that John may have lived well after writing Revelation, up to the time of Domitian based on a statement of Irenaeus. If this were true, then we would expect that he who had received the vision, and would have recognized its fulfillment, would have been instructing and correcting those who were then teaching a parousia delay.
But there is no evidence of this at all. The church continued to look for a visible Coming, and where they erred was, like the preterists today and the Jews before, in not recognizing a dual fulfillment. Even if you try to argue that all the Christians were in darkness about it all those centuries, how in the world could it be the kingdom then?
The Kingdom of God is here! Then later, this preterist system was said to have been completely formulated by Jesuits, with the purpose of throwing off the suspicion of them being the Great Harlot, as Anabaptists and the new Reformers had been charging.
The Jesuites are also said, ironically, to have formulated pure futurism for the same reason of throwing suspicion off Rome. You would wonder why the scriptures were even circulated and later canonized, if they were all fulfilled well before the end of the century. Yet, if it was all fulfilled, you would think there would at least be an additional book covering the fulfillment and start of the actual kingdom.
All throughout the New Testament, redemption was said to be obtained by those then who believed in Christ.
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Were they completely redeemed? My immediate question was what does this mean? Were they still lost and in their sins?